VM i styrkeløft på Eurosport


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>TJ. Problemet med Andersons 1200lbs squat er såmænd ikke, at det ikke er dokumenteret. For det er det skam. Der var utallige menesker der så ham udfører dette squat på et casino i Las Vegas. Problemet med det løft er derimod, at vægten ikke var monteret som skiver på stangen, men derimod var to store kurve fyldt med mønter som hang i hver sin ende af stangen. :)

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Så hvis Serge har kørt 5 reps på 400 kg bagpå, burde han kunne løfte endnu mere i træk og stød.

Jeg tror nu begrænsningen ligger i teknikken... og at han har haft et mægtig overkill mht. til styrke i squat.

Jeg oplever at det kan være meget individuelt om hvor gode folk er til at reppe med en vægt der ligger lidt under deres 1 rep max. Jeg vil i hvertfald ikke afvise at de 5 gentagelser med 400 kg er rigtigt især set i lyset af Mel Siff's udtalelser.

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Har push press så været et olympisk løft? og måtte de gå ned i benene :unsure:

Der et ikke tale om et push press, men derimod et olympisk pres. De måtte ikke bruge benene. Løftet blev fjernet fra programet i 1972, da det efterhånden havde udviklet sig til et stående bænkpres. Alexeev havde på daværende tidspunkt verdensrekorden i olympisk pres med 236kg. :blink:

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Sjovt vi lige har diskutteret det med de olympiske vægtløfteres styrke i squat og dødløft. Faldt lige over en lignede "diskussion" på Andrey Butenko´s forum.

SteveW spørger om følgende:

I have read in some old Soviet sports journals of a lifter named Aslanbek Yenaldiev. He was around at the time of Alexiev,he is said to have had a back squat of 455kgs!It was an article about the relation between the clean and the athletes best back squat, apparently Vasilli.A never used more then 285kgs in B.squat, but cleaned 255kgs+, and this guys best clean was 240kgs. I was wondering if you ever heard of this guy.
Andrey Butenko svarer:
All weightlifters are strong squatters. I don't think Alexeev has squatted only 285. Most of SHW olympic lifters squat over 400 kg in back squats - that's norm. Majority pull close or over 400 kg in DL. My buddies in 75-82,5 kg class have easily squatted between 300 and 330 without knee wraps and suits, just with belt. I myself squatted 260 in swimming wear and a belt for a double, weighing 82,5.

The question that comes up...why these guys with such crazy results don't come and show them up in PL? Well... they do...sometimes...Shane Hamman 457,5 kg squat, Vladimir Kuznetsov 420 no equipment, Spinov 430 squat no belt-385 pull no belt, Naleykin 420 squat no belt-370 pull no belt, Meszaros 407,5 pull no belt. Lots more others, but still not too many.

I've heard of that guy. He seems to be a Chechen, by the name. I know that Sultan Rakhmanov (also from that region), (recently died), also an Olympic champion, has squatted and deadlifted over 400 kg.

Just a comparison...Gennady Chetin from Uzbekistan, 56-60 kg class in early days pulled 330 kg from a 10 cm box. He was scaring heavy guys in the gym with such huge deadlifts. Later became top 60 kg class powerlifter in IPF until his death in 1997.

Their extreme ways of training make them extremely strong...

Så ifølge Butenko, så kan de fleste sværvægtere i olympisk vægtløftning squatte og dødløfte i omegnen af de 400 kg. Og Andrey Butenko må om nogen vide hvad han snakker om, da han er vokset op i Rusland, og har været i kontakt med både toppen af vægtløftning og styrkeløft.

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