Claus J

Det er vidst heller ik kun havregryn han har ædt 

Det er sjovt som det oftest kun er folk med kroppen fyldt med steroider eller folk, der bruger for meget tid på bodyhouse.dk, der kommer med disse tåbelige beskyldninger... :angry:

- Claus

Benjamin & Jan: Det var nu også blot min personlige præference jeg gav udtryk for. Har tidl. kørt på en affjedret uden lockout og DER synes jeg - på trods af at den kunne strammes - at man tabte for meget energi ved at fjedre frem og tilbage. Fornemmelsen var en anden.

Mvh.

Claus

Det er såmænd bare en (mekanisme på en) gaffel, hvor affjedringen kan slåes fra/til. Ganske nyttigt, om man kan lide både at køre i skov og på landevej. I skov kan en affjedret gaffel være at foretrække, hvorimod det på asfalt blot er en hæmsko. Her kan du så med et hurtigt drej vælge, hvad du måtte foretrække.

Jeg er da glad for min, men umiddelbart vil jeg ikke mene, at det er DET, der skal afgøre, hvilken cykel man vælger at købe.

Jeg ville KLART foretrække en stiv forgaffel fremfor en affjedret uden lockout, skulle jeg vælge.

Mvh.

Claus J.

Mange har - som Arne skriver - stået i det dilemma. ;)

Jeg ville BÅDE kunne køre lidt i skoven og så også få en rimelig fart på landevejen, så jeg købte en ikke alt for tung MTB med affjedret forgaffel m. lockout (vigtigt - enten dette eller alm. stiv forgaffel, efter min mening) og så slick-dæk (helt tynde dæk). Det kører super!

Men du skal nok gøre op med dig selv, hvor du oftest vil bruge cyklen.

Mvh.

Claus

Så jeg klædte mig godt på, støvede Giro hjelmen af og rullede afsted på min MTB

:bike: :)

Lækkert med en god tur - og gerne i skoven! Var selv ude i dag - det SKAL sgu' også være godt, for har lige brugt 1000.- kr. på reparation af min 2 uger gamle MTB... :( Jeg havde et mindre (!) uheld i skoven - resultat: ødelagt XT-bagskifter, flere eger plus geardrop. Ak... Nå, ja, ikke at forglemme de 50 min. jeg skulle gå med cyklen på skuldrene!

Det kan være, du påtænker at flytte noget af træningen udenfor de kommende måneder?

God træning, Arne!

Hej Jan!

Jeg postede artiklerne som et "lille indspark" i debatten, ikke som endegyldige sandheder eller deslige (men det tror jeg også du er med på).

Jeg synes du har nogle interessante indvendinger. Selv var jeg overrasket over at læse det skrevne mht. aerob vs. anaerob træning ifm. fodboldtræning.

Nuvel, det er ikke et område jeg har læst så meget om før/haft praktisk erfaring med, så må ndrømme, at jeg ikke er alt for meget inde i det. ;)

Mvh.

Claus J.

Jeg synes lige jeg ville poste nedenstående. Om du kan bruge det, Scholes, ved jeg ikke - men umiddelbart spændende, synes jeg.

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ARNASON, A., S. B. SIGURDSSON, A. GUDMUNDSSON, I. HOLME, L.

ENGEBRETSEN, and R. BAHR. Physical Fitness, Injuries, and Team

Performance in Soccer. Med. Sci. Sports Exerc., Vol. 36, No. 2, pp.

278-285, 2004.

Purpose: To investigate the relationship between physical fitness and

team success in soccer, and to test for differences in physical

fitness between different player positions.

Methods: Participants were 306 male soccer players from 17 teams in

the two highest divisions in Iceland. Just before the start of the

1999 soccer season, the following variables were tested: height and

weight, body composition, flexibility, leg extension power, jump

height, and peak O2 uptake. Injuries and player participation in

matches and training were recorded through the 4-month competitive

season. Team average physical fitness was compared with team success

(final league standing) using a linear regression model. Physical

fitness was also compared between players in different playing

positions.

Results: A significant relationship was found between team average

jump height (countermovement jump and standing jump) and team success

(P = 0.009 and P = 0.012, respectively). The same trend was also

found for leg extension power (P = 0.097), body composition (% body

fat, P = 0.07), and the total number of injury days per team (P =

0.09). Goalkeepers demonstrated different fitness characteristics

from outfield players. They were taller and heavier, more flexible in

hip extension and knee flexion, and had higher leg extension power

and a lower peak O2 uptake. However, only minor differences were

observed between defenders, midfield players, and attackers.

Conclusion: Coaches and medical support teams should pay more

attention to jump and power training, as well as preventive measures

and adequate rehabilitation of previous injuries to increase team

success.

Soccer is one of the most widely played sports in the world (15,29)

and is a sport characterized by short sprints, rapid acceleration or

deceleration, turning, jumping, kicking, and tackling (4,30). It is

generally assumed that through the years, the game has developed to

become faster, with more intensity and aggressive play than seen

previously (29). Elite soccer is a complex sport, and performance

depends on a number of factors, such as physical fitness,

psychological factors, player technique, and team tactics. Injuries

and sequelae from previous injuries can also affect the players'

ability to perform.

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Exploring the Myths of Conditioning for Soccer

http://www.charlespoliquin.net/articles/soccer.html

Charles Poliquin and Curt Pederson

Since most soccer players weigh less than 200 pounds and soccer is

not a traditional American sport, many players and authorities have

established many myths regarding physical conditioning for soccer.

Generally speaking, the most common myths or misconceptions are that

soccer is an aerobic sport and that strength training isn't necessary

for success in soccer. In actuality, soccer performance is hindered

by the excessive amounts of aerobic training and inadequate strength

training in many players. Proper use of aerobic, anaerobic, and

strength training is paramount for success in soccer at any level.

Today, both male and female soccer players need to know how to train

properly to be able to run intermittently at high speeds for 90

minutes and be able to both win and keep possession of the ball on

the ground and in the air. Very few players today at any level are

training properly in order to possess these physical attributes. This

article dispels the training myths that surround soccer and provides

the proper training information required for soccer excellence.

Soccer Training Myth #1

Soccer is an Aerobic Sport

The belief that soccer is an aerobic sport is one of the biggest

fallacies regarding the physical requirements for soccer. While it is

true that soccer is aerobic in duration, it is actually anaerobic in

intensity. Studies have shown that during the course of a 90 minute

match, a player will run over 6 miles at an average intensity of 80%

of their maximal heart rate. ……..

Soccer Training Myth #2

To get in shape for soccer, you must run five miles a day!

Soccer Training Myth #3

An aerobic conditioning base is required for soccer success

Soccer players and coaches need to understand the difference between

optimal and maximal aerobic fitness. Depending upon the player's

position and the team's style of play, varying degrees of aerobic

conditioning are required in soccer. Studies have shown that high

level of aerobic fitness can hinder a soccer player's performance in

the following ways:

*High levels of aerobic fitness have no bearing on an athlete's

ability to perform high-intensity, intermittent activities such as

those required by soccer. The muscular strength and power used to

shoot, throw, and kick in soccer come from type IIB muscle fibers.

These fibers are developed through strength training, not endurance

training.

*Every position in soccer requires that the player be able to jump as

high as possible for head balls. Research has shown that the more

aerobically fir the soccer player, the more their vertical jump will

decrease (i.e., the vertical jump is inversely correlated with

increases in V02 max).

* Strength training, when performed concurrently with endurance

training, may actually enhance performance in explosive activities

such as shooting, jumping, and throwing

Soccer Training Myth #4

The leg extension exercise is better for improved kicking power and

soccer movement than leg squats

Many soccer coaches and players believe that kicking power and

accuracy come from the quadriceps muscles, which allow the knee to

extend. Therefore it is assumed that to improve one's kicking

strength, leg extension exercises should be performed. In actuality,

maximal shooting and passing accuracy and power stem from the muscles

involved with hip extension and flexion, not the quadriceps. To test

this, sit on the ground with both legs flexed at approximately a 90-

degree angle. Kick a soccer ball from this position-as if you were

performing a shot or volley. When performed properly, you will feel

the hamstring and gluteal (buttocks) muscles being recruited. These

muscles are the muscles used during a shot, punt or volley and are

best trained by using the barbell squat exercise and its many

variations…….

Some of the many reasons soccer players choose knee extensions in

favor of squatting exercises are:

1. Most people will avoid the highly rewarding but of course very

demanding squats simple because they are way more taxing than knee

extensions. In other words, out culture teaches us to use the

easiest, but of course not the most rewarding route.

2. Players will rationalize (rational lies) that isolation exercises

are better than compound exercises (i.e., squat) and in this way,

repress their feeling of guilt for avoiding them.

Soccer Training Myth #5

Upper body strength isn't required in soccer

We are not saying that you should look like Ronnie Coleman. In soccer

you need upper body strength for three reasons: to improve running

speed, ward off opponents, and allow for maximal leg strength and

power to be obtained. Yes you read correctly: upper body strength

makes you sprint faster. This principle has been clearly shown in

recent years with track and speed-skating sprinter. Acceleration

begins with the upper body. If you look at the muscular development

of a World-Class sprinter, you will recognize this valuable point. To

achieve maximal speed, the torque of the right leg must be countered

by the torque of the left upper torso, and vice versa.

Upper body strength also helps players of every position to ward off

opponents whether they are defending or trying to gain possession of

the ball. When shielding the ball from another player, a strong upper

body will help to prevent the athlete from being knocked off of the

ball. Strong trunk muscles help the soccer player to hold a

defenseman off of the ball and maintain their balance while a strong

upper body and arms will further strengthen the soccer player in one-

on-one offensive and defensive situations………….

Soccer Training Myth #6

Leg squats are bad for the knee

Not only are squats not bad for the knees, every legitimate study on

this subject has shown that squats improve knee stability and

therefore reduce the risk of injuries. (The National Strength and

Conditioning Association had published an excellent position paper on

this subject with an extensive literature review)…………

Soccer Training Myth #7

Strength Training will make you Slow

Tell that one to Olympic Gold medalists in bobsled, speed skating,

track and field sprinting. Setting the drug issue aside, at his

prime, Ben Johnson was respected by competitors not only for his

lightning starts but his performance levels in the weight room and

his well-developed thighs. Ben's leg training revolved around the

squat. Since then, the training of World Class has shifted to greater

volumes of work in the weight room.

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Football injuries during the World Cup 2002.

Junge A, Dvorak J, Graf-Baumann T. Am J Sports Med. 2004 Jan-Feb;32(1

Suppl):23S-7S.

BACKGROUND: The Federation Internationale de Football Association

(FIFA) World Cup is one of the largest, most popular sporting events

but is associated with a certain risk of injury for the players.

PURPOSE: Analysis of the incidence, circumstances, and

characteristics of soccer injury during the World Cup 2002. STUDY

DESIGN: Prospective survey.

METHODS: The physicians of all participating teams reported all

injuries after each match on a standardized injury report form. The

response rate was 100%. RESULTS: A total of 171 injuries were

reported from the 64 matches, which is equivalent to an incidence of

2.7 injuries per match; approximately 1 to 2 injuries per match

resulted in absence from training or match. More than a quarter of

all injuries were incurred without contact with another player, and

73% were contact injuries. Half of the contact injuries, or 37% of

all injuries, were caused by foul play as rated by the team physician

and the injured player.

CONCLUSION: The incidence of injuries during the World Cup 2002 was

similar to those reported for the World Cup in 1994 and in 1998.

Increased awareness of the importance of fair play may assist in the

prevention of injury.

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C Woods1, R D Hawkins2, S Maltby2, M Hulse2, A Thomas2 and A Hodson2

The Football Association Medical Research Programme: an audit of

injuries in professional football—analysis of hamstring injuries. Br

J Sports Med 2004;38:36-41

Objective: To conduct a detailed analysis of hamstring injuries

sustained in English professional football over two competitive

seasons.

Methods: Club medical staff at 91 professional football clubs

annotated player injuries over two seasons. A specific injury audit

questionnaire was used together with a weekly form that documented

each clubs' current injury status.

Results: Completed injury records for the two competitive seasons

were obtained from 87% and 76% of the participating clubs

respectively. Hamstring strains accounted for 12% of the total

injuries over the two seasons with nearly half (53%) involving the

biceps femoris. An average of five hamstring strains per club per

season was observed. A total of 13 116 days and 2029 matches were

missed because of hamstring strains, giving an average of 90 days and

15 matches missed per club per season. In 57% of cases, the injury

occurred during running. Hamstring strains were most often observed

during matches (62%) with an increase at the end of each half

(p<0.01). Groups of players sustaining higher than expected rates of

hamstring injury were Premiership (p<0.01) and outfield players

(p<0.01), players of black ethnic origin (p<0.05), and players in the

older age groups (p<0.01). Only 5% of hamstring strains underwent

some form of diagnostic investigation. The reinjury rate for

hamstring injury was 12%.

Conclusion: Hamstring strains are common in football. In trying to

reduce the number of initial and recurrent hamstring strains in

football, prevention of initial injury is paramount. If injury does

occur, the importance of differential diagnosis followed by the

management of all causes of posterior thigh pain is emphasised.

Clinical reasoning with treatment based on best available evidence is

recommended.

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NG86: Det lyder temmelig dyrt. Mener jeg gav ca. 500 kr. for den (dansk import).

edit:

Elvirus: Jo, vel lidt over 500.-, men du har da ret. Havde lige regnet med en lidt højere kurs... :)

Du kan benytte pensum.dk til at finde boghandlere.

Supertraining er dog nok sværere at skaffe. Der er vist en tysk boghandler på nettet ( :lol: ikke meget hjælp, jeg ved det...).'

edit: prøv denne mail-adr.: [email protected] og forhør dig.

Hej jenz!

Jeg kan da lige knytte et par kommentarer til de titler du har listet.

"Bevægeapparatets anatomi" - er du blot interesseret i en indføring til anatomi, er det nok at skyde over målet. Bogen er temmelig snørklet skrevet og meget detaljerig. Der findes mange andre titler der er mere letlæste. Tjek biblioteket.

"Science and practice of strength training" - ganske god bog. Du kan sagtens få noget ud af den uden forkundskaber. Der er dog inkl. noget om biomekanik, som helt sikkert kræver et vist kendskab til dette. Men du kan jo tage, hvad du kan bruge derfra.

"Supertraining" - massiv bog. Der er meget at hente, på alle niveauer. Som begynder kan du sagtens lære meget derfra - igen: tag hvad du kan bruge derfra. Forvent dog ikke at færdiggøre den inden for en vis tidsramme. :lol: Den dækker alt inden for træning.

"Power: a scientific approach" - vistnok OK bog. Er ikke blevet helt færdig med den. Den kan du nok godt få noget ud af. Den har nogle år på bagen, så mht. videnskaben deri, er det muligt der er mangler. Grundlæggende intro. til vægttræning: øvelser, ernæring, gode råd.

Pavel Tsatsouline skriver primært om styrke - disse bøger kan du trygt købe uden forkundskaber. De er roste - har ikke selv læst dem. Spørgsmålet er, om du i disse finder noget, du ikke også kan finde på nettet.

Summa sumarum: Med et vist kendskab til anatomi og fysiologi vil du få mere ud af nogle af titlerne - men samtidig vil du ikke kunne undgå at få en masse guldkorn ud af dem uden forkundskaber.

De andre titler kender jeg ikke.

Mvh.

Claus J.

Skal vi ikke sige: maxpulsen falder for ganske alm. mennesker (læs: ikke-professionelle) ikke som et resultat af træning, men alderdom - men samtidig kan meget veltrænede opleve et lille fald i deres maxpuls.

Er i øvrigt enig i ziggymunds forklaring (på hvorfor folk kan tro maxpulsen er faldet).

Mvh.

Claus J.

Hos den mere veltrænede ift. den utrænede:

- makspulsen uændret eller en smule lavere

- hvilepulsen bliver lavere

Mvh.

Claus J.

Få det undersøgt. Slå dig ikke til tåls med lægens 3 ugers pause "og lad os så se".

Få en kvalificeret ortopædkirurg eller fys. til at se på det.

Mvh.

Claus J.

Se her

Brugt bælte, Inzer XL.

Du kan få det for 350 plus porto (normalpris 495 plus evt. porto).

(Er dog en del affarvet pga. sol... ;) Men det ser bare hardcore ud... :lol: ).

Brugt 2 x.

Arne> tak for kommentarerne. Det er min opfattelse, at rigtig mange stel er af typen Alu 7005. Jeg vil undersøge det.

Mht. kommentaren om objektivitet, var denne ikke møntet på roadbikeshop.dk. Blot en generel vurdering. ;)

Jeg vil undersøge markedet (igen ;) ) og se om jeg kan finde noget der dur (=opfylder mine ønsker :lol: ). Det skulle vel heller ikke være noget problem at få sammensat en cykel? Jeg mener: minus en affjedret gaffel, plus en bedre geargruppe, minus dit, plus dat. Om dette er dyrere end at købe en "færdig" cykel, ved jeg ikke - men vil da undersøge det.

Takker for svarene!

Mvh.

Claus J.

Snak med en cykel fagmand

;) Naturligvis - MEN: de vil jo også gerne sælge cykler. Det var derfor en mere objektiv vurdering af hvad et godt stel er, jeg fiskede efter. :)

- Claus J.

Dumbo> Lyder som nogle fornuftige anbefalinger - og som jeg har det nu, nogle jeg vil følge (som du nok også kan se i mit ovenstående indlæg). Har tidl. kørt med affjedret forgaffel, men var lidt træt af ikke at kunne slå det fra. Så hellere undvære det - især da jeg ikke kører SÅ meget i skov.

Så spørgsmålet er (til Dumbo, Arne og hvem der måtte have lyst): hvordan sikrer jeg mig, at stellet er af en god kvalitet? Og hjul, ligeså?

Buc> Jeg vil tage et kig - tak for det.

Arne> Tak for de værdifulde kommentarer. Det er bestemt noget jeg vil tage til mig. Det hele kunne nemt ende i en Cube m. stiv forgaffel, Deore eller LX-komp., en god og stiv ramme og så nogle smallere dæk.

Jagten fortsætter...

Mvh.

Claus J.

Ingen kommentarer? Jeg ved godt jeg er utålmodig... :4whistling:

Jeg tror jeg er kommet frem til, at det SKAL være LX - det gør dog, at ovennævnte cykel vil komme op over 12.000.- og det ER for meget for mit budget. Desværre. :(

Det ser ud til at Cube har nogle udmærkede cykler i den pris-region - dog kan jeg godt lide det "hurtige" udseende af GT'en...

Jeg overvejer også at droppe den affjedrede lock-out forgaffel og så bare nøjes med en alm., ikke-affjedret forgaffel, da jeg som regel nok vil have lock-outen slået til. Derved bliver der et par ekstra kroner til komponenterne. ;)

Hej MOL!

Efter at have fået stjålet cyklen jeg købte i denne tråd, har jeg lige brug for lidt input fra MOL’s cykeleksperter.

Jeg har set nedenstående cykel – og lige så prøvet den. Den kører rigtig lækkert. Ingen tvivl derom.

Det jeg skal bruge den til, er motionscykling primært på landevej, cykelstier, skovstier (dog ikke ”offroad”).

Jeg har som krav, at: den (hvilken som helst cykel) skal kunne klare at blive brugt, den skal have lock-out forgaffel, den skal have tynde dæk (let at opfylde, selvf.), gear m.v. skal fungere upåklageligt. Derudover foretrækker jeg nok også v-bremser.

Cyklen er kommet på markedet i denne måned. Koster 7995.- med nedenstående spec.

Hvad der tæller FOR:

- god ramme (stiv)

- god forgaffel med lock-out (vigtigt for mig)

- cyklen er let

- OK frempind (Ritchey)

Hvad der tæller MOD:

- knap så gode komponenter (for 7995.- er det primært Deore og en enkelt Alivio, for ca. 8500.- er det fuld Deore).

Så det store spørgsmål er: KAN man forsvare de knap så gode komponenter ved til gengæld at have en knaldgod ramme, lock-out forgaffel og de andre tring? Bør man ikke prioritere komponenterne temmelig højt? SKAL en cykel til 8000.- ikke minimum have Shimano LX? Eller har jeg stirret mig blind på det? Hvad er jeres erfaringer? Stel og komponenterne skal vel også ”passe sammen” – således forstået, at man ikke har knaldgode komponenter og så en elendig ramme.

Alt det her kommer vel an på, hvor meget man byder cyklen... Den SKAL dog kunne klare nogle tæsk! Men stadig ikke VILD skovkørsel.

Og hvis det ikke skal være denne - er der så andre forslag? Helst under 8000.-

Masser af spørgsmål! ’s’ Er der nogle der vil give deres besyv med?

Mvh.

Claus J.

Frame:

GT Triple Triangle, butted 6061 custom tube-set with integrated headset, disc compatible

Fork:

SR NRX-7500, 26", 65mm travel and magnesium lowers, coil spring preload

Crankset:

TruVativ Five-D 22/34/44

Bottom Bracket:

TruVativ sealed

Pedals:

Alloy body, stainless steel cage lo profile pedal

Front Derailleur:

Shimano Alivio

Rear Derailleur:

Shimano Deore

Shifters:

Shimano 8-Speed

Freewheel:

SRAM 5.0 eight speed cassette 11-34

Chain:

HG-72 9 Speed

Wheelset:

Alex Vectra T5, 24/28 hole with CNC rims with eyelets, gap spoke technology, sealed bearings, black anodized

Tires:

Tioga City Slicker Pro 26 x 1.25 Kevlar Bead / Dual compound

Front Brake:

Shimano cold forged V-Brake

Rear Brake:

Shimano cold forged V-Brake

Brake Levers:

Shimano

Handlebar:

New Syncros 6061 Butted Alum. 35 mm Riser with 7 degree bend

Spokes:

Ritchey forged 6061 with bias cut clamp and locking face plate

Grips:

GT Hook Up

Headset:

FSA Integrated

Saddle:

GT

Seat Post:

GT Aluminum 6061

Seat Clamp:

GT Alum QR

Color(s):

Blue

Size(s):

XS, SM, M, L , XL

Få det undersøgt - ordentligt! Insister på en grundig undersøgelse og ikke tilfældigt gætværk. Find en kvalificeret ortopædkirurg eller fysioterapeut. Lad dig ikke affærdige med lægens 3 ugers pause og smertestillende. ;)

Måske ikke det svar du havde håbet på, men det bedste råd jeg kan give dig.

Fiskeolie, MSM m.m. hjælper ikke, hvis problemet er forkert teknik eller deciderede skader/problemer i skulderen. Så kan man tage alle de kosttilskud man kan opdrive, uden at det vil afhælpe SELVE problemets rod.

Gør dig selv den tjeneste, at få det ordnet NU. Døjer på 5.-6. år med en skulderskade og har netop fået det undersøgt - igen. Denne gang dog grundigt og af en med forstand på skulderskader.

Held og lykke - off you go! :)

- Claus J.

Total lortetræning, men det hjalp meget at Claus J og en tosset nordmand startede deres jomfrutur på swissball - altid skønt at se voksne mænd trille ned af en bold.

Paul Chek - og MS for den sags skyld - får snart baghjul! :lol: Ej, det var nu meget sjovt at prøve - bliver klart en fast ingrediens fremover!

Det var denne artikel jeg snakkede om - men der er selvf. andet end trapz- & bicepstræning, såååå...

- Claus

Men kom da ned til mig og tulle i motion og trivsel, det er klart fedest. jeg er ved at få lokket den tossede nordmand med også...

:lol: Det lyder som en aftale - desværre er jeg multihandicappet p.t. , men så kan jeg vel få lov at lave lidt light weight (skal tages bogstaveligt! ) front squat i stedet for back squat, strict pulldowns i stedet for barbell rows osv.

Jeg vil da også lige gøre mit for, at nordmanden lokkes med!

Tak for infoen, btw!

- Claus

Hey Mette!

Da jeg flytter til Holstebro - siger jeg til hende der for alt i verden ønsker at slippe derfra - om et par dage, skal jeg lige høre ang. det der Motion & Trivsel - hvordan er faciliteterne til dødløft og squat? Og øvrige? Og hvad koster det? Klientel?

Nå, ja og så lige et sidste: har du noget kendskab til de andre centre i byen?

Lige 4-5 hurtige fra hoften!

- Claus J.