Lucas Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 (edited) Hejsa, og må i alle have et godt nytår!Jeg savner lidt nyt litteratur. Har set på bogen "Effektiv bodybuilding" af svenskeren Ove Rytter. Er der nogle der kender denne bog, som kan anbefale eller fraråde den? Eller har i et forslag til en super vægttræningsbog, styrke- eller bodybuilding så skriv lige et indlæg. Tak! :a-okhand: Edited December 28, 2002 by Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claus J Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 Zatsiorskys Science and practice of strength training. Forfatteren kommer ind på mange vigtige aspekter i træningen. For folk uden baggrundsviden i biomekanik – som jeg – kan visse passager i bogen da godt udgøre en udfordring. Bogen kan klart anbefales, da man ikke kan undgå at få et udbytte af den.Supertraining - Mel Siff. Betragtes som en bibel indenfor vægttræningen. Kan ikke nævne et emne, der ikke dækkes i denne tekst. Man lærer bestemt meget af den - men der skal følges med. Ellers ryger du af. Personligt har jeg fået en del ud af visse kapitler, men der er også kapitler, jeg tvivler på jeg får læst. Jeg tager hvad jeg kan bruge fra bogen.Derudover er navne som Charles Poliquin, Fred Hatfield, Ian King, Pavel Tsatsouline, Tudor Bompa, Brooks Kubrik m.v. ofte nævnt som værende OK litteratur. Har indtil videre kun læst (i) de 2 første, så jeg skal ikke kunne sige noget om kvaliteten.Dog skal du droppe al litteratur der forsøger at sælge dig noget - f.eks. et træningssystem, der kan udføre mirakler eller er alt andet overlegent. I den dur...Zatsiorskys kan købes hos www.saxo.com og Siffs hos www.elitefts.com, bl.a.Mvh.Claus J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomnissen Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 Jeg har lige bestilt disse bøger fra kæresten, som er et smut i USA pt. (hjemme om 1 mdr.). Noget jeg bør tilføje??Supertraining : Mel C SiffFacts and Fallacies of fitness : Mel C SiffABSolution : Shawn Phillips Nogle ideer, nu hun er derovre allugevel?? :walking: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claus J Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Nedenstående er direkte kopieret fra Yahoo Supertraining Group - anbefalingerne er skrevet af Chris Rice.Tænkte det kunne være til nytte.My thoughts on various books on strength training by Chris RiceMany of these books are translated Russian texts, or books written inEnglish using the Soviet information; they were not written for light or general reading. I haveread all the books listed but have not studied them and do not make any claims of a trueunderstanding. That is my next goal; I will just give my impressions of each based on a quick, basic read. Ipurchased some of these but I highly recommend the public library system - they can obtain manyof these for you at no cost - and these books are expensive.All these books are in English but not in English if you know what Imean; these are scientific texts and read like what they are. Many of these are texts about Olympicstyle weightlifting and while those theories (facts?) remain true, the information will have to bemodified to fit your personal goals of Powerlifting, track and field, or other sporting activities.If you read a lot of these, they become somewhat repetitive; but each offers a different perspective anddifferent way of wording which sometimes is more understandable.I want to thank Andrew Charniga and others for translating many of theRussian texts. Numbers 1 thru 7 are of a more general overview in nature and use the so calledSoviet or Eastern Block training methods learned from the Soviet studies but aimed at a wider range ofactivities than just the Olympic weightlifting movements. Numbers 8 - 15 are the Olympic lifting textssold by Charniga. These deal with the Snatch and Clean and Jerk training. Most of us plan ourtraining day by day, these books talk about multi YEAR training and how to plan for it. Numbers 8 - 15 areall somewhat similar but are different enough to warrant the reading of all. They cover in depth thetraining for the snatch and C&J - from technique to different types of strength and periodization. As afledgling Olympic lifter, I found these invaluable.Also worth reading are the many articles by Louie Simmons and Date Tate- they drew heavily on many of these books in developing their Westside methods of training.1. Supertraining by Mel Siff. This is the big daddy of fitnessbooks. Mel Siff covers just about everything one might want to know about training. Don't plan on getting throughthis one in an evening of light reading. This one seems to have been written in English and seems easier to readand comprehend than a lot of the translated books.2. Facts and Fallacies of Fitness by Mel Siff. Interesting read ofcommonly held ideas on training and why they are not accurate.3. Serious Strength Training by Bompa and Cornacchia. I didn't likethis one as well as #4 below. Lots of pictures of exercises and pro bodybuilders. Some good info in it but itseemed harder to sort it out. I very seldom like anything using roided out pro builders as examples of weighttraining. I wouldn't buy this one myself.4. Theory and Methodology of Training by Bompa. A good all aroundbook on Soviet style training that is more understandable than many. Not about weight training per se butsport in general. Covers just about everything.5. Secrets of Soviet Sports Fitness by Yessis. Kind of an overviewof Soviet training principles. It seems more general in nature than some others and designed to introduce sovietideas for all sports. Fairly easy to understand.6. Science of Sports Training by Kurz. I found this one to be alittle harder to understand than others. Aimed at development of all sport training and not just weight training, itseemed "busy" in its' explanations at times. It's like it's all in there but harder to get it out.7. Science and Practice of Strength Training by Zatsiorsky. Thisone I really liked, at times I even thought I understood parts of it. Often quoted by Louie Simmons and Dave Tate,this one belongs on my "to buy" list.8. The Snatch and Clean and Jerk by Roman and Shakirzyanov. This isa book analyzing the technique of various lifters in the Snatch and Clean and Jerk. Probably has limited value toanyone not learning the Olympic lifts.9. The Training of the Weightlifter by Roman. Probably my favoriteof the group (8 - 15). It seemed to be somewhat easier to understand than some of the others. The yearly andlong term plan instead of just the day to day routine.10. Managing the Training of Weightlifters by Laputin.11. A System of Multi-Year Training in Weightlifting by Medvedyev.12. Programming and Organization of Training by Verkhoshansky.13. Fundamentals of Special Strength Training in Sport byVerkhoshansky.14. Weightlifting Training and Technique with several authors. Variousarticles on Olympic weightlifting. Several are very interesting.15. Weightlifting and Age by Dvorkin. The training of juniorweightlifters.16. Olympic Style Weightlifting by Schmitz. A short book showing howto perform the Olympic lifts and basic Olympic lift routines. There is also a video companion tothis book.17. The Nautilus Bodybuilding Book by Darden. One part of training isthe "train to failure" principle. Often referred to as the Nautilus or HIT principle; it is a good read.Darden does explain the principle well if in glowing and idealistic terms. The Russian texts also talkabout it (with a different name) but as part of a more complete program and not as the "only" way to train.Remember Darden and Jones were selling something here besides the book.18. Dinosaur Training by Kubik. A really good motivational book.Kubik has his own beliefs and after reading the book, you really want to run out and try some of this stuff.I think this might just be the way to train if you're a construction worker and need all around strength inevery direction. It wouldn't hurt anyone to incorporate some of his ideas once in a while if you lift forgeneral pleasure and not for specific type competitions. Well, maybe even then.19. Keys to Progress by McCallum. I grew up on McCallum in Strengthand Health magazine. The guy is just plain fun to read and while training ideas have changed over theyears, remember a whole generation of lifters grew bigger and stronger on these programs. They arebodybuilder oriented, but emphasize hard, hard work and are inspiring as all heck. A must read for any iron gamefan.20. The Warrior Athlete by Millman. Not a weight training book at allbut talks about "the zone" in sport. Written in 1979, it's still an interesting read with value to allathletes.21. Power to the People by Tsatsouline. Easy to read with the Pavelsuper salesman format. Pavel is an interesting read in any of his several books. Offers a very simplisticapproach to training that's not all that simple.22. Beyond Stretching by Tsatsouline. A book on flexibility thatpretty much covers it all, including how much is too much.23. Stretching Scientificly by Kurz. Similar but not identical to 22above.24. IronMind Stronger Minds, Stronger Bodies by Strossen. This is atrue must read for atheletes. It's not all that interesting, it's not really fun to read; but it's all aboutthe other side of things. You know the half the really good guys have that the rest of us don't. Mental, emotional,and all the rest of the not so little things that have to all come together for success.25. Overtraining in Sport by Kreider, Fry, and O'Toole - dry and boringcome to mind but has some good info in it.26. Enhancing Recovery by Krellmann - more dry and boring interestinginformation.27. Power Eating by Kleiner. I hate reading diet books - I'm one ofthose naturally skinny people and my diet theory is eat it quick before it gets away. I'm into volume withnutrition as a side dish. This one follows pretty standard medical style theory of higher carbs, but does recommenda protein level much more accepted by lifting standards. There's a newer version out than the one I read.A pretty complete eating guide for athletes that makes more sense than most.28.- Claus J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Rigtig god quote der Claus J - jeg fik da lige noteret et par bøger på min ønske liste :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claus J Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Nexus> Havde jeg en r*vfuld penge, skulle du bare se bøger! ;) Kunne også let finde et par stykker der... - Claus J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Voravong Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Er der i øvrigt nogen der véd hvor man kan få fingrene i "Supertraining" af Mel Siff, den virker umulig at opdrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claus J Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Voravong> www.elitefts.com- Claus J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Voravong Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Claus J -> Tusind tak. Så lige at du allerede havde skrevet det én gang. UPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lillemo Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Du kan også prøve www.c-of-c.de i tyskland, han har tidligere haft supertraining. elite tager en krig for porto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATJ Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Supertraining og Facts and Fallacies of fitness af Mel Siff, kan købes billigt direkte igennem ham selv på; [email protected]Supertraining 2003 (OBS! ny udgave) for $50 surface (4-8 uger) og $74 airmail (5-8 dage). Facts and Fallacies of fitness for $30 surface/$49 airmail. Begge sammen for $93 surface/114 airmail.Begge er anbefalesesværdige bøger. Sample Chapters for downloading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomnissen Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Men oven i dette kommer så, told og moms....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jast Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Men oven i dette kommer så, told og moms....... Det er kun når man handler uden for EU, så derfor kommer der ikke told og moms på varer fra c-of-c i Tyskland. Men som jeg husker det, tager de kun imod forudbetaling......var det ikke dig, Atom, der forhørte dig om forsendelse fra dem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATJ Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Jeg mener ik der er told og moms på bøger??? Jeg er aldrig blevet opkrævet noget, og jeg har købt rigtig mange bøger, mest USA, incl. fra Siff og der var heller ingen told og moms på. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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