Thomas J Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Der var en glimrende 2-delt Dave Tate artikel i det nye EFS newsletter. Jeg kan ikke umiddelbart finde artiklen på hjemmesiden, så i tilfælde af at de kun var for dem som modtager EFS nyhedsbrevet, så poster jeg hermed artiklen."New Article by Dave TatePart OneSick of Your Gym?The more I read and travel the more I find the same issue coming up time andtime again. I hear it from fellow powerlifters and get a ton of questions on howto deal with it. Though I train at Westside, my traveling and busy schedulestill allows me to experience this first hand. The issue has to do with findinga good training facility.I was introduced to the sport of power lifting and training in a small 20x40private “pit” of a gym in Findlay, Ohio. This place was a hole in the wall buthad everything we needed to get bigger and stronger. We had one power rack, oneplatform, a lat machine and some benches. During this time all I would everdream about was getting out. I would read magazines like Muscle and Fiction andsee the huge training centers and knew this is where I had to be to get biggerand stronger. Is this not where the strong get stronger and the big get bigger?As luck would have it I found one of these places during my time in college.This place had all the best machines, mirrors, locker rooms, aerobic equipment,juice bar and hot chicks walking around from time to time. It took me about 2weeks to figure out I up rooted myself right into HELL. I ran into many of thesame issues many of you are still dealing with. These include but are notlimited to the following:1. Gym owners and other staff: These are the same people who love you the minuteyou walk into the door but then realize you are “Hard core” and bad forbusiness. They feel you are bad for business because you scare the members awayand break down the equipment. What they do not see is the time you spend givinglift offs, spots and advice to these other members while the staff busy on thephone or whatever else they spend their time doing behind the Iron Gated FrontDesk. Did you ever wonder why the other members ask you for advice and spots? Isit because you are the only one there who LOOKS like you know what you aredoing? Or is it because the staff can’t be found when they need help. I canremember early Saturday morning workouts where I would walk into the gym for abench session and have to wait ½ hour for anyone to show up so I could get aspot or at least someone to call 911 if I killed myself. God forbid I ask thegeek behind the desk who is too busy confirming his (HIS?) nail appointment fora lift off or spot. After a couple of weeks, you either get a personal phonecall, letter or a legal summons to see the manager about “your issues”. At thispoint you are asked to tone down your training because you are scaring the othermembers. First, I would love to see the member that goes to see the owner andsays, “I am afraid of that fat skinhead. You know the one, right? He gruntswhen I’m trying to talk on my cell phone. So loud in fact, that I can barelyhear the TV when I’m on the recumbent bike. {Note: There is no one morefreaking lazy than the people that use these bikes. Whenever I see some fat asspedaling on one of these things, I feel like taking that useless towel he or shewears around the neck (this signifies that he is “getting fit”) and snapping hisass right out of the gym.}”He scares me so much that I may just take my businesselsewhere. I am going to join the gym down the street” I think this is all abunch of bullshit that they use to get you out so they can have their “HappyPlace” of geeks in spandex. Second, what about the people that wear spandex butdon’t quite have the body for it? I understand the freedoms of America, butspandex is a privilege, not a right. I guarantee that most people in the gymwould like to see these people go well before I get canned. I am all for peoplehaving a positive opinion of themselves, but let’s not get carried away. 2. Chalk: This is one I never really understood. Chalk and barbells go togetherlike bread and butter. They have been together forever but these places havedone their best to separate the two. Could you imagine a gymnastics center witha big sign that says “No Chalk”? The only way I found to combat this was tosmuggle in my own ½ block of chalk stuffed into small butter dish. This act wasin itself a renegade move and it did provide some satisfaction. But imaginetrying to get ready for a big lift and having to sneak into a bag, pop open thebutter dish, pull out a small piece of chalk and color your hands with it. Thisdoes not go over well when you are trying to get into an aggressive state for abig lift. You are supposed to be able to go over the box of chalk and chalk thehell out of your hands. This is part of the process they do not understand. Thereason for the “No Chalk” commandment is so they do not have to clean it up. Ifthe staff is not helping members with lift offs, advice and spots then what arethey doing? Sorry I forgot, they are on the phone. This also has to make youwonder if they clean the pads on the benches and machines. My advice to you iswhen you are in these kinds of facilities, use chalk and use it liberally. Defythe laws and stand up for America. “America? But what does chalk andcommercial gyms have to do with this great country?” If we use chalk, and Imean loads of chalk, these gyms will be forced to hire people to clean up afterus. More and more people will catch on and use chalk. This leads to more of amess and thus more jobs are created. This helps the economy and helps to feedfamilies across America. This is also why I never bus my tray at McDonald’s. 3. Racks: I could go on forever about this one; the power rack is the shrine ofany gym and should be treated as such. Unfortunately, I have seen many gyms thatdo not even have one rack! And those that do have what I call junk racks. I havealways been a wide squatter and could never find one rack I could squat insideof. So you have to set the rack up so that you can squat outside of it. Now therack has pretty much lost its effectiveness. Then you have the J- Hooks. Theyare about 10 inches deep and you have to do a freaking half squat just to getthe bar out. If this was not bad enough, the hole spaces are about 4 inchesapart. So you either do a half squat or a standing calf raise/shoulder shrug toget the bar out. Then you have to walk it out for your set. Once you are donewith the set, you have to figure out how to get the bar back into the rack.After all this (the calf raise to shoulder shrug to shuffle to squat to shuffleto shoulder shrug to calf raise) you wonder why your back is so fried from thesquat session. But hey, the rack looks nice to the other members who will onlyuse it for barbell curls (or is that a reverse-grip clean?) and 135 poundshrugs. This is a whole other issue not to be discussed in this article. Butyes, I also have had to wait up to 45 minutes for Captain Upper Body to get thehell out of the power rack so I could squat. These are the same assholes thatdiscuss and debate whether or not you should do shrugs on shoulder or back day. 4. Barbells: Remember the owners and staff that do not like you because you beatup all their equipment? Well if they purchased REAL BARS then they would not getbeat up. There is nothing worse then walking into a gym to squat and all you canfind is a bent 1000 pound test bar with no knurling in the middle of the bar. Trying to find a real piece of equipment like a safety squat bar, okee squatbar, Texas power bar or cambered squat bar is like finding a straight man at aCher concert. No need to worry, there are five or six curl bars you can use. 5. Music: Do I really need to go into this? There are many studies that haveshown music can have a positive effect on your training. These studies must havebeen miss read by these gym managers. Britney Spears may increase my test levelsbut does nothing for my training. Enough said. 6. Mirrors: I never realized how bad a mirror can screw you up until the day Istarted squatting in front of one. First off, I am much uglier that I thought Iwas but that is another issue. Second, you have to learn how to positionyourself in space during a big lift so that you learn how to make corrections.The mirror distracts you from this process. They are good for one reason andthat is to check out the lady (not the heifer) in spandex doing bent over rowswithout having to tweak my neck.7. Bench Press: Much like the power rack, there is someone running around thecountry selling these guys a crock of crap on what is and what is not a goodbench press. I have been on benches with 9 inch wide pads with ½ inch foam, Jhooks that are once again about 10 inches deep, racks that are set so you haveto do a half rep to get he bar out, safety posts that get in the way of thepress (I never understood this one. If I miss the last thing I want to do istoss the bar back toward my head), benches that are 12 inches off the floor, andflooring that is too slick to get any leg drive. 8. Bands, Chains, Weight Releasers, etc. Do you really want to see the gym ownerfreak out? Walk in on your next squat day with a box squat box and an arm fullof chains and bands. They will first look at you with wonder. Then after you getit all hooked up they may or may not let you finish your training session. Evenif they don’t say anything right away, you are guaranteed to hear something.“You can’t use this stuff here”; it will ring in your ears for the next fewdays. You were all excited about trying out some of the best advanced trainingmethods and now they won’t let you. You are told you will get hurt. My questionis how do they know? And what about the smith machine that could perhaps be themost dangerous piece of equipment ever invented? Then again they would not knowthis because they are too busy on the phone to keep up to date. There are many more issue but these seem to be the ones I run across the most.The other one that kills me is the new weight plates. What is up with the irongrip plates? The ones that have the handles cut into them so they are easier topick up. If you are not strong enough to pick the plate up then it should not beon the bar! Then again, some of the trainers may not be strong enough to pickthem up when they are loading them on the bar for their clients. Forget thisone. It now makes perfect sense. This article would not be complete if I did not give you options on how to avoidthese pitfalls. Overcoming these issues is one of the missions of Elite FitnessSystems. I will provide you with some of these options that have worked verywell for others who share the same training frustrations you have. 1. Keep looking: There are many good gyms out there you just have to keeplooking. By the time you finish this article you will know what to look for.Make a visit to every gym in your area and don’t settle until you find the onethat will work for you. When you find one that you feel may work schedule anappointment with the owner or manager of the place. You want to talk to thechief decision maker of the place. This is the guy that will go to bat for youif problems occur later down the line. Let him or her know what you will bedoing and how you plan on training. Make sure they know you will go out of yourway to help other members when asked and will clean up your mess before youleave. Get a good understanding of their concerns and let them know yours. Thenpay month to month for awhile “just in case” When looking do not rule out HighSchools and Universities. Many of these (not all) will be more than happy tohave you come in and train at their facilities. I was just reminded of oneother place you may find some help. Tony Hutson a Baptist Pastor started a localplace with other members of his church called the Chain Gain Power Gym. You mayfind a great place to train by using your Church as a starting point. 2. EFS Gym Directory: This directory is located at:http://www.teamvbs.com/gymdir/gymdir.htmWe have created a place for lifters who have found great places to train to posttheir facilities. The great thing about this directory is that many private andhome gyms are listed here. You will never find these places anywhere else. Thesegyms were started by lifters like yourself that got fed up with the currentstate of the gym industry and started their own places to train. These are notbig commercial centers but have all you need to get strong. Most of thesefacilities are looking for serious lifters like you to train with. Whencontacting them keep in mind they do not have to let you join. These are privatefor a reason and they are not looking to go into the gym business. If you areserious then there should be no problem. If you happen to find a good placeplease let us know by posting it on the directory. 3. Visit a Powerlifting competition: This is where you will find the same typeof people with the same passion for the Iron as you have. While you are therecheck out the T-shirts these guys are wearing. You will not see very anycommercial gym shirts. What you will find is the name of many hardcore gyms thatmay be your next training palace. Take the time and talk to these guys. They canhelp steer you in the right direction. 4. Start you own “Hardcore” gym: You can have your own place like those gyms inthe gym directory and on the T-shirts of the power lifting competitors. I spendtime on the phone every day helping lifters get their private or garage gymstarted. It is not as expensive as you might think. If you have any questionsvisit www.elitefts.com or call 888-854-8806. Part two of this series will focuson how to set up your own training center. Sick of Your Gym?Part TwoHow to Start a Private or Home GymWhen you are setting up a place to train on a limited budget you have toprioritize your items based upon a budget. There are a few things that you musthave and others that would be nice, but can wait until later. I have separatedthese by:A- List: Those items you have to have to get started. B- List: Those items that could be “A-List” but not necessary to get started. C- List: Those items that are nice to have but not 100% necessary. A-ListCombo Power Rack. This has to be the one item all gyms have to be based around.We offer racks from $900.00 to $3000.00. You do not need a $3000.00 rack for ahome gym. The combo power rack is your best bet. We have built this rack to bethe best on the market for this purpose. It has pin hole setting at every inchfrom the bottom of the rack to the top. This is to serve several purposes. Itwill allow you to perform dead lifts off the pins from below your knees with theplates only a few inches off the floor. It also provides you with many optionswhen performing pin presses for your bench press. Now you can work your EXACTsticking point in an isometric or static to dynamic position. It also allow forbetter spotting when training alone. You can set the pins up so if you miss thepins are positioned to take the bar. The safety pins we use are also a pipe andpin set up. This means the pipe will absorb the shock of the weight and not bendthe pins or damage your bars. One other notable feature of the rack is its sumobase. This is built so you can squat with a wide stance without the rack beingin the way. The combo rack also comes with a free standing bench (built tocompetitive standards) for all your bench press training. For any home orprivate gym start up this should be the first item you should consider.Bars: The first bar you need is a good power bar. The Texas Power Bar is thebest all purpose bar you can get. Do not skimp on the bar or you will be buyingnew ones all the time. I would also recommend the cheapest bar you can find forall the pin pulls and pin presses. There is not a bar on the market that canhandle this abuse without bending over time so get something cheap and use it.It does not matter if you use a bent bar on these movements so save your goodbar for the squats, benches and dead lifts. Plates and Dumbbells: With these items be smart. DO NOT BUY FROM A MAIL ORDER ORINTERNET COMPANY unless you plan on a huge order. The shipping will kill you.First check your local paper and trading times. Many times you will find theseitems for free or very cheap. If this does not work then visit your localsporting goods or exercise equipment shop. Regardless of the price you will saveif you pick the plates up instead of having them shipped. But purchase only whatyou need. Get as many 45 pound plates as you feel you will need then only (2)25’s (4) 10’s (2) 5’s and (2) 2.5’s. This will give you everything you need tolift any increment of weight needed. For the dumbbells only buy the ones youwill be using. Save the rest for later or when you get stronger. Hex dumbbellsare the cheaper option but may break in time. Pro-style may be a better bet forlong term usage. Do not go with dumbbells you put together. These tend to rattlewhich can place stress on the elbows and will always have a post sticking out ofthem making movements like the rolling dumbbell extension very uncomfortable. Rubber Mats: First, make sure you really need them and if so find out the bareminimum you will need. If you buy these from an equipment manufacture you willget killed on price. Try to visit you local Horse Supply Shop or Tractor SupplyShop. The have very good quality 4x6 1 inch thick rubber mats for not much morethat $45.00. This is about ½ the price you will pay from a equipment manufactureor supplier. Box Squat Boxes: I feel the best squat boxes are those like what we use atWestside Barbell. The way they are made is very simple. We use a 2x4 frame withone support running down the center and a ¼ inch piece of plywood for the top.Each box is 4 inches in height with a 24x24 top surface. We use a series ofthese boxes and 1 inch rubber mats (cut 24x24) to get the desired height. Themats go between the boxes to avoid slipping. This makes it easy when two orthree people are squatting to change the box height. You can also use the 4 inchboxes for dead lifts (you stand on them). We also use the boxes to jack up theback up the bench for incline or decline work. Board Press Boards: These are also very easy to build. I suggest using 2x6boards that are 14 inches in length. I suggest making a one board (one 2x6), twoboard (two 2x6’s screwed together), three board (three 2x6’s screwed together),and four board and a five board. These will be used for all your board preswork. Dragging Sled: Using a sled in your training can have great effects on yourrecovery and general conditioning. If you are not in shape you will not recoveras fast as if your body was working more efficiently. We have several articlesin our articles section detailing the use of this item so I will not expand onthem here. For more information: http://www.testosterone.net/html/146gpp.htmlChalk: Now that you have your own place you can use as much of the stuff as youlike. Get a box and start making your OWN mess!B-List Reverse Hyper: I feel this should really be in A- list but based on budget itmay not be possible to get this at the same time as the other items. I feel thisis a must have for several reasons. First, lower back strength is one of thebiggest problems for most lifters and can put an end to ones trainingexperience. Having a strong healthy back is a very high priority in the trainingprocess. If your back is messed up then it does not matter what type of rack youhave because you will not be able to squat and dead lift. The Reverse Hyper isthe best machine for developing the muscles of the lower back. This is becausethe range of motion the machine offers tends to hit the muscles of the lowerback in glutes in a way no other movement or machine can do. Many have tried tosimulate this or tried another type of machine but when they finally get a realReverse Hyper they can’t believe the difference. There are three models. For theprivate gym I would suggest the Pro or the Standard. The only difference is howmuch weight the machine can hold. The standard is best suited for those whosquat 500 and below. The Pro is for everyone regardless of the weight they canlift. The standard will hold up to 350 pounds while the pro can hold up to 600pounds. Glute Ham Raise: This is the absolute best way to hit the hamstrings because itworks the muscle from both the knee and hip joint at the same time. This is howthe body works when it runs, jumps, squats and dead lifts. We have spent muchtime on the design of our unit to make sure the body placement is perfect. Ihave not seen another GHR that was built correct. You have to have the pad justright and the toe plate has to be big enough to push your toe against. Mostother machines fail of both of these specs. When you do the GHR you want tostart with your body parallel to the floor. Then with your knees 2” behind thethigh pad you want to curl your body up into the horizontal position. Safety Squat Bar: Besides a good power bar, the Safety Squat Bar is the mostimportant bar you will buy. The reason for this is what happens to your bodywhen you use the bar. Most lifters fall forward when they miss a squat or a deadlift. This is because they can’t keep the shoulders behind the bar. When youuse the Safety Squat Bar for low box squats and good mornings the bar isconstantly trying to throw you into this same forward position we miss in. Tokeep this from happening you have to use the muscles of your upper and lowerback to keep the bar is a straight line. This bar will work the muscles of yourlower traps (between the shoulder blades) like nothing else. Did you ever noticehow thick Elite lifters are in this region? This bar can help you achieve that.At Westside Barbell we do all of out max effort low box squat with this or thecambered squat bar. We have not used a straight bar for Good Mornings or Low Boxsquats for over 6 years! This is how much we believe in these bars. Cambered Squat Bar: As described above, we use this or the Safety Squat Bar forall of our max effort good mornings and low box squat work. The Cambered SquatBar works much different than the Safety Squat Bar. The camber of the bar is 14inches lower than where the bar sits on your back. This places the hands in alower position taking much stress of the shoulder as well as placing more stresson the muscles of the back, glutes and hamstrings. Heavy squatting with astraight bar on max effort day coupled with dynamic day squatting may be toomuch for some lifters’ shoulders and elbows. This bar gives these muscles a restwhile still allowing you to work the posterior chain to its fullest. Cambered Bench Bar: This is a great bar to ad in for variety. JM Presses and lowboard presses are great with this bar. The low board presses with this bar areexcellent for bringing up the bottom of the bench press. Bands: If you have not heard about training with bands then you are alreadybehind the times. The bands have made an incredible difference in the strengthof many Elite and Non Elite Power Lifters across the country. These can beapplied in a variety of different ways to enhance your strength to levels youonly dream about. For more information on band training see our articles atwww.elitefts.com or the Westside Reactive Method Video. Chains: Training with chains is another one of the training principles that haschanged strength training over the years. Chains work by adding more weight atthe top of the lift, which is where you are at your strongest point. You want tomake sure you are attaching them to the bar correctly and using the right amountof chain. For more information on this method:http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_127resist.htmlManta Ray: If you can’t afford the Cambered Squat or Safety Squat bar then lookinto the manta ray for a change to low box squatting for max effort work. Thispiece of equipment places the bar higher on your back by increasing the distancefrom the load of the bar to your hips. This will train your lower body and backharder than just using a straight bar. C-ListPower Bench Rack: Tired of training on sub par benches where you have to pressthe bar out a mile before you even begin to press? Tired of trying to figure outhow to attach bands? Tired of training with benches that are to low or tonarrow? Then this is the bench for you. Hole spacing every inch for all youlockout training needs. Support beam off ground so you can run bands under,built to competitive width and height, dense hard pad, and adjustable J hooks.Training on this bench will take you bench training to the next levelMono Lift: This specially designed squat stand allows for optimal squattraining. The hydraulic lift and lever support stands make for the best trainingenvironment for serious squat training. This is a must for heavy band usage. Belt Squat Machine:. This is the best way to train the hips, glutes, quads andhamstrings while keeping the bar off your back. Pro Elite Pull Down: Super oversized lat pull down with low pulley unit: Thismachine is the "best of the best" lat machine. The machine is 96" from floor totop pulley with removable seat and low pulley set up. Great for pull throughsand low and high lat workWeight Releasers: Weight releasing is one of the best ways to build explosiveand starting strength. With the weight releasers you can add as much weight tothe top and eccentric phase of the lift. At the reversal point the weightreleasers kick off the bar to allow you to finish the concentric phase of thelift. Weight Trees and Bar Holders: If your going to spend all the money on plates andbars you should at least keep them out of the way so you are not tripping allover them. There you have it. Everything you need to build your own gym. You can spend asmuch or as little as you like. Start with those items on the A-List then ifneeded progress to some of the other items on the B and C list. If you need anyhelp with any of these items or setting up your gym feel free to contact us at[email protected] or call 888-854-8806" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luciferase Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Det er jo smukt.....mange af de ting han kommer med, er faktisk noget jeg har overvejet. Det er sjovt nok også alle de ting vi har diskuteret flere gange.....sidste gang p.g.a. udmeldingen fra de største centre om dopingbekæmpelse ved at gøre livet surt for folk der træner seriøst. Visit a Powerlifting competition: This is where you will find the same type of people with the same passion for the Iron as you have. Jeg kan kun sige at efter vi var til JM i weekenden er jeg helt klart overtalt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmoore Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Inspirerende..man får helt lyst til at træne IGEN efter at have læst en tate artikkel :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Blackmoore-> IGEN!!?? hvad snakker du om?? - du fyre den sgu da af ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmoore Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Bare rolig..jeg bliver hjemme... men når der skrives så meget om tunge vægte, kalk og den slags, bliver man sgu "sulten " :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cilius Posted September 2, 2002 Report Share Posted September 2, 2002 Elsker den her:I understand the freedoms of America, butspandex is a privilege, not a right.Ellers en lækker artikel, den rammer hovedet på sømmet... er der forresten nogen der kender til hardcore gyms i Kbh? (eller DK som helhed, vi kunne evt. lade os inspirere og lave en liste over hardcore steder i DK)Kærligst <_< Cilius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Lækker artikel, jeg er vild med hans måde at skrive på. Man sidder jo og griner højlydt når han sviner mainstream gyms og deres inventar og underlige regler. - Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersL Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Ellers en lækker artikel, den rammer hovedet på sømmet... er der forresten nogen der kender til hardcore gyms i Kbh? (eller DK som helhed, vi kunne evt. lade os inspirere og lave en liste over hardcore steder i DK)Kærligst <_< Cilius Så sent som i mandags tænkte jeg at jeg ville prøve at lave sådan en liste ved at opfordre MOL, Getbig og BodyHouse brugerne til at sende mig en mail, evt. med en lille andmeldelse af centret, og så ellers bare få samlet alle centre (Også Form og Fit ;) ) så der var en liste for enhver smag.Nu vil jeg gøre det! :DFed artikel, kunne virkelig godt tænke mig at starte et lille "hard-core" gym!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MASS Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Trying to find a real piece of equipment like a safety squat bar, okee squatbar, Texas power bar or cambered squat bar is like finding a straight man at aCher concert.:lol: skræmmende men sandt!!!And what about the smith machine that could perhaps be themost dangerous piece of equipment ever invented? :evillaughter: A og B listen over udstyr.... saaavle saaavle :drool: :a-okhand: God artikkel....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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