Thomas J Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Tror du at din proces bliver understøttet af posivitive ændringer i testosteron-produktionen?Det tvivler jeg stærkt på, med mindre Jarvig er begyndt at skyde sig selv i røven. Man får altså ikke konstant forhøjede og målbare test-koncentrationer, fordi man begynder at tænke mere på kvinder. Vores test-koncentrationer er jo i stor udstrækning genetisk betingede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben F. Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Tror du at din proces bliver understøttet af posivitive ændringer i testosteron-produktionen?Det tvivler jeg stærkt på, med mindre Jarvig er begyndt at skyde sig selv i røven. Man får altså ikke konstant forhøjede og målbare test-koncentrationer, fordi man begynder at tænke mere på kvinder. Vores test-koncentrationer er jo i stor udstrækning genetisk betingede.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Jeg har så læst undersøgelser af nogle politimænd i californiaen, hvis arbejdet var truede. Deres testosteron-produktion var faldet MARKANT, i den periode hvor de gik og grublede over dette. Nu tror jeg heller ikke at man kan ændre på sin base-line testosteronproduktion. Men jeg tror at næsten alle mænds testosteronproduktion konstant bliver trykket af problemer, stress osv osv. Så hvis man kunne eliminere de ting der trykkede denne nedaf, ville meget kunne være vundet. Der ligger også en artikel på dr.squat, hvor et punkt vedr. test. prod. er ens sociale succes, hvor denne er en faktor der i høj grad skal medregnes. Fandt det lige her:3. Psychology T has been shown to be extremely sensitive to an individual's emotional state. Life stresses such as those caused by work and relationships can cause a sustained reduction in testosterone secretion (unlike adrenal hormone secretion which initially increases but returns to base levels if stress persists). Conversely positive emotional states increase T production (4). Emotional state can invoke 'viscous cycles' for example poor performance could induce anxiety and hence further declines in performance. Understanding of these hormonal responses may allow athletes to pre-empt and accept declines in performance and adapt there training accordingly.Igen, så bliver baseline produktionen nok ikke flyttet. Men hvis ens gennemsnits-test prod. bliver, så er meget vundet alligevel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Jeg har så læst undersøgelser af nogle politimænd i californiaen, hvis arbejdet var truede. Deres testosteron-produktion var faldet MARKANT, i den periode hvor de gik og grublede over dette.Jo, men det var jo så den anden vej. Det er jo alment kendt at stress osv. kan undertrykke test-produktionen. Jeg mener bare ikke der eksisterer undersøgelser som viser at man kan booste ens test-produktion udover det som man er genetisk disponeret for.Nu tror jeg heller ikke at man kan ændre på sin base-line testosteronproduktion. Men jeg tror at næsten alle mænds testosteronproduktion konstant bliver trykket af problemer, stress osv osv. Så hvis man kunne eliminere de ting der trykkede denne nedaf, ville meget kunne være vundet.Det er jeg så til en vis grad enig i. Jeg ved dog ikke om det er SÅ nemt at undertrykke ens test-produktion. Jeg tror ikke det er nok at man bare har en dårlig dag.Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben F. Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 (edited) Jeg har så læst undersøgelser af nogle politimænd i californiaen, hvis arbejdet var truede. Deres testosteron-produktion var faldet MARKANT, i den periode hvor de gik og grublede over dette.Jo, men det var jo så den anden vej. Det er jo alment kendt at stress osv. kan undertrykke test-produktionen. Jeg mener bare ikke der eksisterer undersøgelser som viser at man kan booste ens test-produktion udover det som man er genetisk disponeret for.Nu tror jeg heller ikke at man kan ændre på sin base-line testosteronproduktion. Men jeg tror at næsten alle mænds testosteronproduktion konstant bliver trykket af problemer, stress osv osv. Så hvis man kunne eliminere de ting der trykkede denne nedaf, ville meget kunne være vundet.Det er jeg så til en vis grad enig i. Jeg ved dog ikke om det er SÅ nemt at undertrykke ens test-produktion. Jeg tror ikke det er nok at man bare har en dårlig dag.Thomas<{POST_SNAPBACK}>OK, jeg tror så at det kan gå meget hurtigere. Tænk på hvad der sker i kroppen hvis du for et 11-tal til en afsluttende eksamen. Så kan jeg straks mærke tegn på øget glæde, aggression(positiv) og andre ting der er tæt knyttet til testosteron. Omvendt hvis du for en meget dårlig nyhed. Men det må der være videnskabelige undersøgelser på. Nogle test (høhø) personer, der bliver påvirket af positiv/negativ påvirkning. Edited November 25, 2004 by Torben F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted November 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Puha, kan slet ikke følge med Jeres indlæg. Har lidt travlt på arbejdet. Skriver når jeg får tid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 OK, jeg tror så at det kan gå meget hurtigere. Tænk på hvad der sker i kroppen hvis du for et 11-tal til en afsluttende eksamen. Så kan jeg straks mærke tegn på øget glæde, aggression(positiv) og andre ting der er tæt knyttet til testosteron.Det du føler i en sådan situation har nu intet med testosteron at gøre. Det har nærmere at gøre med endorfiner vil jeg mene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben F. Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 OK, jeg tror så at det kan gå meget hurtigere. Tænk på hvad der sker i kroppen hvis du for et 11-tal til en afsluttende eksamen. Så kan jeg straks mærke tegn på øget glæde, aggression(positiv) og andre ting der er tæt knyttet til testosteron.Det du føler i en sådan situation har nu intet med testosteron at gøre. Det har nærmere at gøre med endorfiner vil jeg mene.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>ok, det skal jeg slet ikke kunne udelukke. Vil prøve at se om pubmed eller lign. har noget at byde på. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffehurtig Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Utroligt interessant diskussion. I det analoge system vi kunne kalde emotiolt/psykologisk/fysiologisk kunne tesen vel være at årsags-effekt rækkefølger kan bestemmes i 'begge' retninger så at sige. Ment sådan at hvis man ved at skyde en mand som er depressiv med test for derefter at se en positiv ændring i hans humør og selvfølelse også kunne konstatere det modsatte. Altså at hvis hans humør ændres pga psykosociale påvirkninger så afstedkommer det en højere produktion af test. Cortisol og adrenalin produktion er i hvert fald påviseligt forbundet med det sympatiske nervesystem¸ der som bekendt påvirkes af de psykologiske processer ved for eksempel krisesituationer og akut/kronisk stress. Hvorfor så ikke også testosteron?Hold kæft en smøre. Sig til hvis det er volapyk. Så giver jeg et skud kvajetest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF vol. II Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Det ER endorfiner - samme reaktion som efter en heftig rutschebane er faldskærmshop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted November 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 (edited) Før jeg svarer, så er der her en lille godbid fra DeAngelos nyhedsbrev. Damn, han har fattet det, denne her fyr. Hey Dave, I have your book and the advances series and let me make it perfectly clear to people who need answers, GET THE PROGRAM, BOOK, CD, DVD what ever get it. Without this information you will have significant shrinkage and eventually forget that your little appendage is for more than peeing. Stop staying home and giving yourself what you want, it is so simple and many questions you have will be answered for you, even better you will learn how to answer them on your own, JUST DO IT!!! There is a show on about some average guys and a beautiful woman, watch it there is only one guy who "gets it" and the rest are "nice" guys. See who gets her attention. I have always been slightly successful with getting dates, usually women my own age or a few years younger. I am 37 bald, have a child who lives with me, and I have poor posture due to arthritis. (using Daves teachings none of this stuff is a barrier) I figure why not use Daves stuff and try younger women so I did. SUCCESS DUDES So I go for coffee everyday,(I always look in a hurry and NEVER sit down to gawk at her) there is a nice young girl (an 8 she is 20) who works at the counter, here is the story I know it is long but you guys need to know that I tried doing exactly what Dave says and I use different things for women all the time with success but this time I tried to follow his exact teaching on a younger woman. Tease her Look her in the eye at all times, even when she looks away, she blushes. get e-mail a few times ask for her number so we could meet for coffee. she does not produce her number I go for coffee with a friend (my excuse to stay and sit down) where she works, we sit down, she sits with us I ask her if she e-mailed her number to me, she said give me your number first, I say no you can't have it I bet you are a stalker, and besides I asked for yours not if i could give you mine, I tell her to go back to workmy friend and I have important things to talk about. My friend thought I was rude and said so, he told her she was beautiful and she could stay if she wanted, I told her again to go back to work and to get her number ready for when I left. My friend said I would not get her number, I said so what? He said I was crazy and I blew it with her. I knew better. we talked, finished coffee we started walking out, My friend went to say goodbye, she called me over and handed me her number. Friend is being wuss, he actually said to her that he would be nicer to her than me. I just laughed and said this better be your number if not I would haul off and give you a dirty look. Friend said I was embarrassing to him.Went to bar that night with friend, cocky and funny all night I got 5 e-mails and 1 wedding proposal. Friend is shocked how I could get numbers and not buy drinks or even be nice (not mean, just direct and cocky and funny). Friends number list 0. Call waitress in the morning to meet for coffee. I told her what time I would be there. I said if you want to come be there on time and I asked if she was flaky she said no I am not flaky, because then I would tell someone else to meet me instead. She showed up. I asked her questions, so did she. I would give her answers, like, she wanted to know my age, I wouldn't tell her she persisted, many times, I was getting annoyed so I told her not 36 and not 38 figure it out. I never gave a direct answer. I did the hand reading thing, I did the palm massage thing, I did the oww you hurtme if she touched me then she was trying to rub my leg I moved her hand away, this was all within the first 10 mins. I reached under behind her knee (guys you must learn where this spot is, it drives them wild) and gave her a quick rub there. She said I just made her well, not dry. 20 mins she wanted to drag me under the table, I told her I was leaving. I walked her outside and she asks which way I was going, I said south, she wanted a ride home, I changed my mind and told her I was going to go North now. I grabbed her gently by the back of her hair and kissed her and said goodbye. I opened my door and she jumped in and said I was to drive her home. I went and got gas then I drove her home. I kissed her again then told her to get out. She asked me to come in for some good stuff. I said NO I am busy. She said no one says no to me, I said well I do, now get out of my truck. She was shocked, I bet no one ever did say no to her. (I wanted to go get me some I can tell you). I phoned her about 3 hours later, she sounded busy, wink wink, I asked what she was doing she said I got her so excited she had to take care of it herself and she was thinking about me. She wanted me to talk dirty on the phone while she "did it" I said no, then I said I would be home at 8pm she could come over for a nice massage but that was all, if she wasn't there by 8:10 I was going out. She was at my door at 8 sharp. Well not to kiss and tell, she wanted to be in control, I put her off wouldn't let her touch me, told her she was a spoiled brat and I wouldn't put up with it and if we were going to go any further it would be on my terms and when I said so. She was going wild! She said no one had ever taken control like that. I did take her to the bedroom after some fun resistance on my part, told her what I wanted and she finally asked if I was going to do it with her, I said when you beg, she said she never begs for it I said well you better get dressed and leave then, 20 mins of massage and light touching she begged, 3 hours later we were laying there and I told her she had to go, she said no. I told her I would dress her, which I did and told her I had to get some sleep, she told me to call her, I said no you call me at 4pm. She did and now she wants to spend the week together, I said no I am busy. She called back and asked if we could meet up one day she wanted to bring a friend. I said Tuesday. Man I am good (PS my friend is still alone in the shower. Get the stuff and don't be like my friend).Thanks Dave OH BTW young woman beautiful 22, red head I always make eye contact with her, she will not back down and now she initiates the contact if I don't. I know she is going to be lots of fun ;)R.G. ONT. Canada>>>MY COMMENTS: Wow, and I thought that I was the king of run-on sentences and bending the language called English to suit my own needs...But you get the Gold Medal, my friend.And you also get the prize for "getting" my stuffbetter than most guys.As I read your email, I realized that there are a few "key points" that you understand:1) Most guys can't get over their need for instantgratification.The reality is that men and women have some key differences when it comes to how they experience ATTRACTION.Men have an "On/Off" switch, and women have a "Volume Knob".Men want gratification NOW, and can't grasp the concept that women have a more complex internal "Attraction Mechanism" that needs to be turned up gradually... and in specific ways.You have internalized and "gotten" the idea that teasing, leaning back, and not taking advantage of offers from women lead to them wanting you MORE... not less.2) Most guys don't know how to spark ATTRACTION orrecognize sexual tension or "chemistry"... thus the friend's comments of "she's not into you" and him telling the girl that "he'd be nicer", thinking she'd somehow like him for that.The reality is that for most men, the concept of ATTRACTION is a complete mystery.They don't understand chemistry or sexual tension, and they wouldn't recognize it in a million years.Further, whenever most guys feel ANY kind of "tension" in a situation with a woman, they do whatever they can to RELEASE the tension......not understanding that women ENJOY sexual tension... and that this tension is at the heart of what women call "Chemistry".You clearly understand how to SPARK that initial tension and chemistry, and you also clearly understand that teasing, creating anticipation, and turning this tension UP makes women feel more attracted to you.Your friend, on the other hand, does NOT get it at all.I always love it when I'm playing with a girl and teasing her, and some guy says "Oh, he doesn't mean it". I always say "Yea I mean it" in a serious, sarcastic tone.Most men just don't get that women are not attracted to ASS KISSING behavior.Ever.3) Most guys don't understand that just because a woman feels some attraction for them doesn't meanthat she wants to have sex right then.Whenever most guys get a signal or indication froma woman that she even MIGHT be attracted, they take it to mean "she wants to have sex with me".They what do most guys do?They SCREW IT UP.Exactly.If a woman demonstrates that she's digging you, that's your cue to LEAN BACK.Chill out.Be cool, dude.Relax.One of the best ways to make that feeling of ATTRACTION she's feeling go away instantly is to try to take advantage of it too soon.Which leads me to my next observation...4) Most guys don't know how to AMPLIFY the ATTRACTION, and INCREASE sexual tension.Like I mentioned earlier, most men become uncomfortable when there's tension, and they do things to RELEASE it instead of AMPLIFY it.Why is this?Because they don't know that there are specific ways to build this sexual tension to the point where a woman will literally jump on you... and they don't know how the process works in the first place.There is an important concept that you need to understand when it comes to making women feel a powerful ATTRACTION and AROUSAL...That concept is called ANTICIPATION.Most men don't like anticipation.We like it NOW. Not later... NOW.Women enjoy ANTICIPATION.Women like to think about things happening, imagine what they'd be like... and even sort of "tease themselves" with ideas of what might happen.Women really enjoy the PROCESS of being teased, when it's done in the right way.You have demonstrated that you GET IT when it comes to teasing and building anticipation.And it's nice to hear that even 37-year-old guys with bad posture and kids living at home can meet girls! lol... Edited November 25, 2004 by jarvig13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Elvirus- Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 EJ Jarvig, synes det er rigtig dårlig tekst med den unge tjenerinde - du må ikke synke så dybt - det er direkte latterlig læsning... Fiktion om man vil.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted November 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Synke så lavt!?!? Hvad mener du mere præcist?Vil du have damer eller ej? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted November 27, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 PS: Jeg er helt færdig i dag. Allerede efter 1 ½ flaske vodka var jeg færdig. Pudsigt nok, mærkeligt nok, absurd nok så var jeg ikke den eneste i aften som fandt, at nogen få genstande slog hårdt. Rent faktisk blev selskabet (uden at havde været i byen) opløst kl. 00:30 eftersom stort set alle hellere ville i seng end i byen. Fair nok, jeg er også træt og vil i seng nu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EverLast Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Synke så lavt!?!? Hvad mener du mere præcist?Vil du have damer eller ej? En anelse ukritisk tilgang til DeAngelo's værker ? gad vide om han rent faktisk oplever de ting som han skriver om.PS: Jeg er helt færdig i dag. Allerede efter 1 ½ flaske vodka var jeg færdig.105 cl vodka, og så var du færdig ? svagdrikker der er lige delt et par respektpoint ud her hvis ovenstående ikke er en skrivefejl. Pudsigt nok, mærkeligt nok, absurd nok så var jeg ikke den eneste i aften som fandt, at nogen få genstande slog hårdt.Hvordan drikker i når i drikker igennem - og ikke bare sidder og hygger jer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted November 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Selvfølgelig kræver det en antagelse. Nemlig, at det ikke opdigtede historier DeAngelo fortæller. Well, eftersom hans tilgang til problematikken rent faktisk virker, så kan jeg ikke se, at der skulle være grund til at opdigte historier. Angående den konkrete historie, så er det jo netop ikke hans egne erfaringer. Det er en fyr som (antageligt) har oplevet det og skriver til Davids brevkasse. Jeg synes historien af den 37 åige skaldede mand er herlig. Hvem ved om han opdigter den - det er der ingen der ved. Men det er i grunden ligegyldigt. Hvis man ser "systematikken" og "tilgangen" til dateriet i historien, så er den fin. Ikke at DU eller JEG nødvendigvis skal gøre det på præcist samme måde. Slet ikke - man skal gøre det på sin egen måde. Men hvis man forstår de grundlæggende dynamikker i spillet og gør det på sin egen måde, så er det bare perfekt.Angående vodkaen. Engang var det sejt (i folkeskolen/gymnasiet) at kunne drikke meget. Det er det ikke mere. Det er faktisk ret latterligt. Ikke kun er det hundedyrt at skulle drikke meget inden man er "stiv", nej det er også usundt. Desværre er jeg en fyr, som kan tåle en masse alkohol inden jeg går død. Det er faktisk ret mærkeligt. På den ene side, så jeg en af de mennesker, hvor folk først lægger mærke til at man har fået lidt (= jeg bliver "påvirket" ret hurtigt). Men omvendt, så går det derfra ret langsomt. Hvor meget man kan drikke er jo lidt relativt. For det kommer sq an på mange ting. De vigtigste ting er afgjort:1. Tidsspandet alkoholen indtages2. Humøret3. Træthed/ikke træthed4. Mad i maven/ikke mad i mavenDet er klart, at hvis jeg indtager en flakse spritus på 10 min (umuligt ), er trist, er træt og på tom mave, så er jeg ufattelig spritstiv ret hurtig. Men sker drikkeritet over f.eks. 6 timer, er humøret højt, er rimelig frisk og har bare noget mad i maven, så kan jeg uden problemer drikke 1 flaske, noget slingrende ved 1½ flaske og stiv (men nogenlunde fungerende) ved 2 flaske. Mere er stort set umuligt. Hvordan vi drikker. Well, nu er jeg og vennerne jo specielle. Vi har det simpelthen altid ekstremt godt sammen. Vi nyder simpelthen at hygge sammen. Så vi mødes næsten altid hos én og så sidder vi der og hygger. Og det er godt nok ikke sjældent at vi aldrig kommer i byen fordi vi sidder kl. 2 privat og stadig morer os for meget.I fredags var dog lidt speciel. Vi morede os - drak det sædvanlige, men ligepludselig gik alle døde - og tidligt. Meget mystisk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki A Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Sjovt, faldt lige over et uddrag fra bogen "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman!". Kom straks til at tænke på dig og din nye indgangsvinkel til kvinderne Mon DeAngelo har lært fra "The Master"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JokerX Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Hvordan går det med hende Shania pigen? Din beskrivelse af hende gjorde mig så nysgerrig, at jeg bare MÅ vide hvordan det står til Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 (edited) Shania-pigen brændte mig af. Well, who cares, hendes tab og ikke mit. Jeg har det fint. Siden mine sidste par indlæg har jeg været i byen et par gange og været til to julefrokoster.Det er gået glimrende hver gang. Der har dog ikke været nogen som jeg har været specielt interesseret i og har defor holdt det til arrogant/frækt/sjovt flirteri. Jeg har det stadig bedre end nogensinde. Selvom jeg "endnu ikke" har scoret, så har jeg det fuldstndigt afklaret med mig selv, er ovenpå og "charmerer" pigerne som jeg har lyst til (og det virker). Jeg kan forstå på diskussionen fra forrige side, at nogen mener, jeg ridder på en bølge og at "hverdagen" melder sig igen på et tidspunkt.Hmmm, jeg er ikke uenig. Men dette har bare ikke noget med pointen at gøre. Der var simpelthen ubegribelige og meget forstyrrende ting som en dag pludselig faldt på plads for mig. Det var simpelthen hele min grundlæggende forståelse af mig selv, livet og kærligheden som en dag pludselig blev vendt på hovedet. Derfor er kan det ikke alene ses som en "bølge jeg ridder på". Jeg vil aldrig kunne vende tilbage til min gamle forståelse af verden - simpelthen fordi den var forkert.Men jo, selvfølgelig er der derudover element af at ridde på en bølge. Jeg har pludselig fået mod på at leve livet fuldt ud - og på at elske mig selv ligeså meget som jeg altid har ment jeg har gjort men ikke helt evnet at efterleve. Der er gået to måneder siden jeg blev "forvandlet" og nu er bølgen overstået. Jeg har (naturligvis) også fået en del hak over tuden i de sidste to måneder og (selvfølgelig) erfaret, at ikke alting kører efter masterplanen. Men dette ændrer intet ved min grundlæggende følelse og ved min grundlæggende nye overbevisning.Jeg synes stadig livet er fantisk underholdende, at jeg har fat i den lange ende , at jeg er et genialt menneske og at jeg med tiden nok skal fået drejet livet ind på den vej som JEG ønsker.Derfor skal vi bare pryde dette indlæg med en parrade af den smilie som fortæller alt: Edited December 9, 2004 by jarvig13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0y0te Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Shania-pigen brændte mig af. Well, who cares, hendes tab og ikke mit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Man skal smede mens jernet er varmt..I hate to say I told you so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted December 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Shania-pigen brændte mig af. Well, who cares, hendes tab og ikke mit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Man skal smede mens jernet er varmt..I hate to say I told you so.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ja. Syntes nu jeg smedede ganske glimerende. Men man kan ikke vinde hver gang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Man skal smede mens jernet er varmt..I hate to say I told you so.. Stof til eftertanke, vi andre må igang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvig13 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Man skal smede mens jernet er varmt..I hate to say I told you so.. Stof til eftertanke, vi andre må igang!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Du har vist også én som skal klares NU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Jeg har ikke set hende længe, tør vædde på tøsen er suset til Norge for at holde jul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PlayboY Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Hehe - Ikke noget personligt Jarvig, men jeg tror ganske enkelt ikke på at du kan drikke 2 flasker vodka på en aften - Og 1½ flaske uden at være specielt stiv, lyder også helt hen i vejret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 (edited) Hehe - vildt!Selv mener jeg at være i _rigtig_ god sprut-form, og jeg kan kun klare een flaske på en aften... og så er jeg altså hamrende stinkende beruset Nå, speaking of... skal til fødselsdagsfest om lidt, så..... Edited December 10, 2004 by Spock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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